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Conversion of our T6.1 SpaceCamper at Terranger Offroad- und Reisetechnik
When you think of off-road or expedition motorhomes, or sandy, dusty, muddy or rocky terrain, the first thing that comes to mind is certainly not Volkswagen, or the Bulli. For someone like me, who has had his experiences with Land Rover Discovery and Defender, there are few alternatives off-road. Maybe the Mercedes G-Class. - Now I can already hear one or the other talking about the Unimog & Co. Yes, great, certainly unbeatable in the desert, but in small Italian or Portuguese towns? And where is the comfort for all the off-road capabilities?
Bulli for the Sahara
That's why it's not surprising to me that more and more expedition motorhomes are coming from Volkswagen after all. However, these are rarely standard vehicles. Already under VW T1 and T2 there was the one or other expedition vehicle. Under Gustav Mayer, until 1975 head of development Transporter of VW, the Bulli was made fit for the Sahara. The desert fan privately developed the first all-wheel drive Bulli. In 1978, VW built five prototypes in succession. These all-wheel-drive test vehicles based on the T2 had selectable front-wheel drive, plus two differential locks, and 16-inch wheels. - But it wasn't until the T3 Syncro that VW relied on its experienced partner Steyr-Daimler-Puch, a true all-wheel-drive expert.
PanAmericana, Rockton, Aries & Co.
With models from the T5 and T6 series, such as the PanAmericana, Rockton and, last but not least, the VW Widder created for the German Armed Forces, VW has already proven that it can also take up the fight off the road. Syncro becomes 4Motion.
Terranger and Seikel
The offroad specialists from Terranger and Seikel. Both companies enjoy an excellent reputation when it comes to off-road and travel technology. Both offer different offroad versions for suspension raising, underride protection, and winch. Which is the right partner, should depend at the end of the day, where you feel you are in the best hands and from which concept you feel picked up.
We were looking for an underbody protection for the engine and underbody. We deliberately chose Terranger for this. There were several reasons for this: We felt that here at Terranger they simply go the extra mile. With this concept, the underbody is not only protected, but completely closed.
The performance spectrum is greater from our point of view. One offers an absolutely well thought-out rear carrier system. Although we have decided against this Rear carrier decided, but copied this in many details. So thanks for the idea. I don't know yet whether copying also means getting it right. - We will report. But one thing is already clear, without big brother, with a metal construction, I would not have tried this at all.
Eine Seilwinde haben wir uns „noch“ gespart. Wir hoffen, im Fall der Fälle, auf nette Fahrer/innen mit Seilwinde. 😉 Doch auch hier finden wir das Konzept von Terranger als durchdachter. Bieten diese nicht nur eine, sondern wahlweise Zugrichtung nach vorne (ca. 3000 kg) oder hinten (ca. 7000 kg) an. Wobei dieses System in der Mulde des Ersatzrades verbaut ist. Dort befindet sich ja bei uns ein zusätzlicher Wassertank. Falls wir also noch eine Seilwinde nachrüsten wollten, müssten wir trotzdem auf Seikel vertrauen.
Goldschmitt or VB Airsuspension
Also in the area of the chassis one goes still another step further. Terranger offers, in addition to various height adjustments, the air suspension we favor, alternatively from Goldschmitt and VB Airsuspension an. Denn ein höheres Fahrwerk bietet nicht nur Freiraum, sondern vor allem Schutz. Wir haben uns bewusst für VB Airsuspension entschieden. Ausschlaggebend war hierbei, dass wir in diversen Foren gelesen haben, dass bei VB Airsuspension eine höhere Auflastung (bis zu 3,5 Tonnen) möglich ist. Außerdem war bei Goldschmitt immer wieder von „quietschenden Geräuschen “ und von „leichtem Poldern“ an der Vorderachse die Rede war. – Dies wollten wir nicht persönlich testen.
Otherwise, why did we choose a VB Airsuspension air suspension system with full air springs on the front and rear axles? - This has several reasons:
- The VB air suspension allows the installation of larger tires, e.g. AT- All Terrain tires for off-road use. In our case BF Goodrich - All Terrain T/A KO2 255/55 R18 109 R
- These are mounted on alloy wheels 18″ of the company Delta 4×4 mounted. The rim with the designation Klassik B is not only called so, but is a real off-road classic.
Delta 4×4 Classic B
- For ten years now, it has also been offered in a modified version with a beadlock look. Here, however, the screwable outer rim serves primarily as collision protection and can be replaced if damaged. The original dates back to the 80s. This wheel-tire combination increases the diameter by almost 5 cm. This results in an increased rolling circumference of almost 16 cm. The wheel clearance is also increased by about 2.5 cm. - Attention: There is a speed deviation of approx. - 7 %. Therefore, a speedometer adjustment was mandatory.
Load increase
- Die Auflastung auf 3.500 kg (Vordere Achslast 1.750 kg / hintere 1.950 kg) wird dringend benötigt. Hierzu folgen aber noch Details, nachdem wir auf der Waage waren. – Eines ist jetzt schon absehbar. Wir werden kein Gramm weniger haben. nach ersten überschlägigen Berechnungen, dürften wir knapp unter einer Überschreitung von 3% (105 kg) liegen. Das ist in Deutschland kein Thema, doch in Frankreich, Österreich, Schweden und der Schweiz versteht man diesbezüglich weniger „Spaß“. Hier gilt Wasser- und Benzintank auf Minimum.
Auto level system
- Durch das Auto-Level-System (elektronische Wasserwaage) können wir auf Auffahrkeile verzichten. Per Knopfdruck stellt sich das Fahrzeug „in Waage“. Durch die Auto-Level-Funktion kann das Fahrzeug auch bei unebenem Boden, per Knopfdruck, gerade gestellt werden. Unebenheiten bis zu 13 cm können nivelliert werden.
VB Experience
- The experience - Since its foundation, in 1993 VB Airsuspension is specialized in air suspension, is Volkswagen PremiumPartner and has various partners in Europe and overseas. The company has partners in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Latvia, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, as well as Arab Emirates, Australia, India, Canada, Korea, Singapore, Thailand and USA.
- Different driving mode. Thus, the chassis can be driven up in off-road use, down on the track, and extremely down when entering a garage.
Technical values:
Heights in cm: front axle - rear axle
Theoretical highest position: 53.0 - 52.5
Offroad level (0 ... 25 km/h): 50.0 - 50.5
Normal ride height (unlimited speed): 47,0 - 47,5
Sport level (unlimited speed): 43,5 - 44,0
Parking level (0 ... 25 km/h): 40,0 - 35,5
theoretical lowest position 40.0 - 34.5
This air suspension chassis allows the vehicle to be lowered to a total height of less than two meters even with larger off-road tires and simultaneous installation of a sleeping roof. This helps not only in parking garages, but also on the beach, in parking lots or in smaller towns. Because more and more often you come across height limit barriers.
The vehicle can be completely converted back to a chassis with conventional steel springs. The air suspension chassis can then be reinstalled in another vehicle.
If desired and for all online fans, control via smartphone app via Bluetooth is selectable as an option. We had to save.
Seikel or Terranger
Ob am Ende Seikel oder doch lieber Terranger der richtige Partner ist, muss jeder für sich selbst entscheiden. Auch die Hersteller selbst scheinen sich nicht als Konkurrenten zu verstehen. Wie bereits bei Terracamper und SpaceCamper war auch bei Seikel und Terranger kein böses Wort über die Marktbegleiter zu entlocken. Ganz im Gegenteil, man lobt sich gegenseitig. Vorbildlich, bei Terranger wurde z.B. darauf hingewiesen, dass man zwar eine erhöhte Motor-Luftansaugung anbietet, aber keinen eigenen Schnorchel. Hier wäre man Einbaupartner von Seikel, „da gibt es nichts zu verbessern“.
We will report separately on the underbody protection. Let us surprise you.
Attention: The VB Airsuspension air suspension is also offered by SpaceCamper! - Terranger, however, offers a modification for off-road use. - Here, the mounting kit for the VB compressor, not as usual behind the left front wheel, but mounted in the gimbal tunnel. There he is probably better protected from splash water.
If we had not planned any further off-road measures at Terranger, we would have relied on SpaceCamper just as much.
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Hello PlanB trolley,
I am also thinking about installing a VB air suspension. What can you say in general to the driving behavior after the installation of the air suspension. Best regards from Switzerland. Stefan
Hello Stefan,
we are very satisfied with our airsuspension and are happy to recommend it to others. Unfortunately, I can not answer your question satisfactorily, because we have our Airsuspension from the beginning. So we can not judge how it would be without.
Moin Moin planB,
I also have the VRSuspension and the BFGoodrich 255/55 on 18″ Delta Klassik B installed and would now like to register this. The first hurdle is the speedometer adjustment: at speedometer display 100 I drive lt. GPS 102 km/h. And how do I prove the suitability of the VRSu. for the wheels at the TÜV? How did you proceed? Many greetings from Hamburg, Charly
Hi Charly,
sorry, have only just seen your post. For us, the registration ran directly through Delta, or Terranger. Everything was included with the rims and the have made the speedometer adjustment directly on site.
Hello planBwagen
Do you now also use the air suspension regularly off-road? Are you also satisfied there? We would also like to install such a chassis, but the one from Goldschmitt (OmniRoad). So far I know but no one who drives the chassis also in the offroad area. Would be happy for your feedback (even if you have installed the VB - I think they are similar).
Thank you in advance, Michel
Hello Michael, only now seen. Yes, we use it regularly offroad. I would have a chat with Terranger. They have direct comparisons between Goldschmitt and VB. There is a reason we chose VB.
Hello you 2
May I ask what your butch would cost now about new.
Greetings Walter
Hello Walter,
yes you may. The prices have not only risen extremely in the last four years, but it might even be difficult to still order such a vehicle. Because the VW T6.1 is a discontinued model. But much more decisive is that there is no real successor. SpaceCamper does have a few exciting solutions for the T7. But these are nowhere near as extensive as for our T6.1 Last summer I assisted a SpaceCamper customer with his order, for a comparable vehicle. Including off-road conversion and with all extras, the vehicle was over 150.000,- €.
Hello Marc,
ich finde das ganz toll was ihr macht, meine Kinder sind „noch“ zu klein dass ich selber mal sowas starten könnte, also bleibt es bei einem „Urlaub“ 🙂
wobei meine Frau glaube ich keine Lust hätte so lange im Bus zu leben 🙂
I wanted to ask you about the air suspension and the current status.
I'm thinking of installing a new suspension soon in my T6.1 4M DSG 150ps Multivan, currently I still have VW's own DCC in it, it's not bad but of course nothing for offroad etc.. There are Seikel, coilover suspension or air suspension to choose from, underride protection should also. AT tires and rims I already have.
You have installed the air suspension from VB. Are you still satisfied, have you had any problems so far?
How many kilometers have you covered in the meantime?
If you had to make a new decision now, would you do it again in the same way?
Since it is not such a cheap chassis, I just ask everywhere how so the experiences are. Unfortunately, there are also not very many videos on this subject.
Thank you and I wish you all the best!
Love greetings
Hans
Ciao Hans,
sorry took a few days. Yes, we would do it again. We have only 65,000 kilometers down. But the air suspension makes us almost every day fun.
From my point of view, it is far from being comparable in terms of comfort with a regular factory-installed air suspension. However, it has additional features that such a chassis does not have. It is also not comparable with a pure off-road suspension. But the flexibility between parking mode and off-road mode is simply awesome. But most of all, we appreciate the scale function, which we use not only in the evening, but almost always when we park somewhere.